tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4076567041532697877.post2886023101041531966..comments2023-03-25T16:55:44.076-07:00Comments on J. M. Tresaugue: 11 REASONS WHY I HATE STAR TREK: VOYAGER #11J. M. Tresauguehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04291742177740994684noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4076567041532697877.post-3242593747822385632017-02-17T14:16:30.477-08:002017-02-17T14:16:30.477-08:00Thanks for these articles. I am completely with yo...Thanks for these articles. I am completely with you and actually relieved, that I am not the only one hating ST:V (by the way, I also share your feelgins towards ST:Enterprise... I just loved it. It was fun, nice aliens, highly philosophic form time to time and most of all a struggling, but still wise (enough) captain. Not the moronic Janeway we never could get used to. I am at season 3 now, not really expecting it to get any better and as it couldn't get worse, I'll probalby just watch firefly for the 1000th time to get this ST:V rubbish our of my memory banks :-)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4076567041532697877.post-17205633131662149962017-01-24T16:10:04.224-08:002017-01-24T16:10:04.224-08:00Indeed Enterprise was TOTAL SHITE, exempting Dexte...Indeed Enterprise was TOTAL SHITE, exempting Dexter Producer Manny Cotto's excellent work in Season 4, with the noted exception of that horrid finale. But Voyager was overall a FAR better show than Quantum Leap Trek lol (BTW love Bacula and his work on QL, but Captain Archer was a terrible character IMHO)MKSTEELhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07307344592328512649noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4076567041532697877.post-70629361265580283652017-01-24T16:05:03.568-08:002017-01-24T16:05:03.568-08:00This comment has been removed by the author.MKSTEELhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07307344592328512649noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4076567041532697877.post-15526099118344383972015-12-02T15:22:30.628-08:002015-12-02T15:22:30.628-08:00Why I never understood about Voyager is why they n...Why I never understood about Voyager is why they never encountered the Robinson family from lost in space, I would have watched that.<br />Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16917529583073869382noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4076567041532697877.post-76080646098130937022015-08-18T17:54:55.047-07:002015-08-18T17:54:55.047-07:00Am I the only one who thought that the Star Trek: ...Am I the only one who thought that the Star Trek: Elite Force games did a better job than that of Star Trek: Voyager? Heck, even Star Trek: Elite Force 2's Endgame ending was better than Star Trek Voyager's ending. I kept wondering why no dramatic music was added in to make the show's ending better. Elite Force 2 did it and left me satisfied. DarthVaderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09823690133715925197noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4076567041532697877.post-42889299883750893452014-06-17T20:58:59.564-07:002014-06-17T20:58:59.564-07:00The Writing:
Writers did not develop the character...The Writing:<br />Writers did not develop the characters as well as they could have. I feel that if your character is depressed on Voyager, they simply go to their room and sit alone and mope. Most complain about something with another crewmate who then lets them brood it for the remainder. They didn't communicate their feelings as well as I would have hoped.<br /><br />The Borg:<br />My God. Terrible. Looking back now all you can see is how ridiculous the Borg were in Voyager. How can Captain Janeway make a deal with the Borg? It defies everything the Borg stand for. The Borg DO NOT MAKE deals. They assimilate. They evolved into that because making deals is not worth their time. Talking is irrelevant. Spontaneously Created Borg babies? [TNG, I remember had real babies] Janeway chose a lesser evil role in harming the Undine (I believe that's Species 8472s' name).but she knew DAMN well that she would be opening a gas chamber on that race. And are they worse than the Borg?<br /><br />Chakotay: Poor, poor man. He has almost no standing on any issue and becomes little to nothing on the entire series. He is most like the VP of the U.S. Always there, but in the background. Did he stab a writer?<br /><br />Neelix: I love the Jar-Jar bit! They have replicators [yes, I'm aware of the early "energy crisis"] but this is the 24th century. You STILL need a chef? Neelix has no reason to go to Earth. He's a trader, not a diplomat. Slapping him with his own people [what's left of them] makes perfect sense. He was a goddamn babysitter on some episodes. That was it. A babysitter in Star Trek.<br /><br />Janeway DOOMS us all:<br />Didn't anybody notice Janeway giving future tech to the past federation ship in the last episode? How the hell is getting home faster more important than the human race? She follows no logic by this action as if logic dictates, the Borg have now adapted to her neurolytic [sp?] toxin, ablative armor, trans phasic torpedoes.. How does the fight go NOW against the Borg? <br /><br />Janeway doesn't discipline: "I'm disappointed in you." "I can't put you in the brig for 75 years." Repercussions NEED to happen. I do respect that Tom Paris lost his rank for a few years in one episode.<br /><br />Borg-Kazon Debacle:<br />What would've been better is if Janeway came up with evasion/stealth plans before the big "deal". Remember the Borg REFUSED to assimilate Kazon's because they felt they were not even worthy! Theorize that for awhile....stealth cat and mouse may not be the most exciting, but we all know a head-on battle with one ship vs an unlimited amount of cubes and spheres is in reality, complete suicide.<br /><br />Bad:<br />- Shore leave on worlds you know nothing about.<br />- Away Missions = Total Disaster 86% of the time.<br />- Advanced technology shared with clumsy, one dimensional races.<br />- Who cares about the Ocampa, Kazon, Talaxian, Vidian? Nobody.<br />- They saved Amelia Earhart? <br />- The first humans assimilated were Sevens' parents and herself?<br />- The first reclaimed Borg was Seven? What's the odds?<br />- Nobody ever left a Mark I EMH on and just added more data?<br />- Janeway quoting the prime directive where no allies/respite are found.<br />- Who really is Chakotay? I saw him spirit walk and kiss Seven only.<br />- Inventing new ways to get home with limited input from outside sources without advancements in science or starfleet experts, hardly believable early in the series.<br />- Holographic Irish-Village Obsessions....guys...relax IT'S A HOLOGRAM.<br />- B'elanna was way too bitchy and uncontrollable. Tom Paris and her are total opposite, but no chemistry.<br /><br />The Good:<br />- The Doctor is the only character with actual character development.<br />- Ensign Kim...obsessed with the most unreachable women. [Dead, Terrorist, Borg, Holographic] Pretty funny actually!<br />- Ablative armor is highly underrated and completely bad ass.<br />- Seven of Nine had some memorable episodes as well.<br />- Maquis ideals are mentioned throughout and that was some tension in some early seasons.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4076567041532697877.post-74185743892106889482014-01-20T15:58:09.432-08:002014-01-20T15:58:09.432-08:00I've only watched season 1 and a few episodes ...I've only watched season 1 and a few episodes of season 2, and found this blog after a search wondering if it gets any better.<br /><br />My main complaint so far is how pathetically weak they are. Okay, it's nice to not be a bully or whatever. But in one episode some aliens steal Neelix's lungs and get a harsh warning not to show up again. Then they show up again a few episodes later and skin a crew member. The other captive crew members escape, but instead of freeing the other slaves (who will be consumed for body parts later) and bombarding the prison camp, they just leave. Different episode, a Kazon is recovering on the ship. Two others beam aboard and murder him. Janeway's retaliation is to say "Get off my ship!" Well, that's what they wanted... kill this guy and leave with impunity. After all this, I thought they couldn't get much more pathetic. But then they got trapped in a school of fish, and the only way they managed to escape was by rolling over and submitting to the alpha fish. But maybe that makes sense since as you mentioned later Janeway gets impregnated by a lizard. So okay at least there is some consistency.jiofoiiojsfejisehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18279027272571097378noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4076567041532697877.post-90259743496180451222013-03-25T13:14:22.031-07:002013-03-25T13:14:22.031-07:00the Voyager final was better then what they did fo...the Voyager final was better then what they did for Enterprise, it finished up being about Riker... I cannot stand Johnathon Frakes and think his ego is to blame for what could've been done to give us some closure for the series... Catherine Sarahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04331667497771470721noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4076567041532697877.post-73125781875354884412012-08-15T07:42:42.218-07:002012-08-15T07:42:42.218-07:00Sometimes I feel the need to flog myself.Sometimes I feel the need to flog myself.J. M. Tresauguehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04291742177740994684noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4076567041532697877.post-42374879692232135952012-08-15T07:34:40.299-07:002012-08-15T07:34:40.299-07:00I've never made it through season 7 of Buffy. ...I've never made it through season 7 of Buffy. Love the preceding seasons for the most part. I blame this on Dawn since that is where my interest begae to slacken.<br /><br />My dream conclusion for Voyager is Janeway returning to find The Federation in a civil war. Insurrection would have provided a nice point from which to jump into such a mess if that damn admiral was working under orders rather than going rogue. So Janeway arrives in middle of a bitter battle. Both factions are sending her propaganda, and she must decide quickly with whom she will align herself with. Think of Voyager firing on Picard's Enterprise, and then rol credits. We now have to wait for the next movie to see the out come. In the meantime, we get to watch Excelsior with George Takie as Captain Sulu..... Oh that would have been nice too. But if you notice, my scenario is rather self serving in that I love space battles and clif hangers. Your dream conclusion would fit the Trek universe much better.J. M. Tresauguehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04291742177740994684noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4076567041532697877.post-33149761266803132722012-08-15T05:28:15.724-07:002012-08-15T05:28:15.724-07:00Why don't you just NOT watch Voyager again? Th...Why don't you just NOT watch Voyager again? That's what I do. Jeffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17810671906136352008noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4076567041532697877.post-34608182529192176352012-08-14T15:19:32.266-07:002012-08-14T15:19:32.266-07:00I have to agree about the ending, and actually the...I have to agree about the ending, and actually the whole last season was a big anticlimax. I don't think this is uncommon - the last was the least engaging season of Buffy for me as well and what the hell was the last season of Lost? I think although television is getting better at sustaining series long narrative arcs, the nature of television means that there are still too many writers, not enough vision. Admittedly Deep Space handles these long term threads better than Voyager but ultimately there's is a more complex universe and so more satisfying. Voyager's singular mission (which in my opinion gives energy and direction to the early seasons, I know you disagree) means that the ending can only ever be anti-climactic. They either get home (which undermines the tension of the earlier seasons) or they don't (which means drifting in space). I actually think a GREAT ending would have been them being in tangible reach of home (say 5 years) but deciding as a ship to take a detour for humanitarian reasons, making some giant sacrifice at the end for the greater good. Sad but still an end in sight.Penni Russonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17956453252195293843noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4076567041532697877.post-58862196509108276632012-07-27T10:12:09.156-07:002012-07-27T10:12:09.156-07:00Glad you enjoyed the blog series! I do enjoy the o...Glad you enjoyed the blog series! I do enjoy the opening to "Timeless" when we see Voyager trapped beneath a sheet of ice. I also enjoyed the episodes "Blink of an Eye" and "Gravity", however my enjoyment is hampered when realizing the same device--time moving faster for one set of characters--was used in both episodes. Like you alluded to, these are not amazing Trek episodes. In TNG or DS9 they would have been mid level. But since they belong to Voyager, I was left asking: "Is this the best I can hope for." Sadly the answer was, "Yes!"<br /><br />Thanks again for reading the series. I'm off to watch some good Trek. You know, Kirk fighting the Gorn? . . . Oh....J. M. Tresauguehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04291742177740994684noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4076567041532697877.post-73633424340875714872012-07-24T07:16:13.197-07:002012-07-24T07:16:13.197-07:00I really enjoyed reading these. Your reasons are s...I really enjoyed reading these. Your reasons are shared by many - I'm not a fan of Voyager but I can appreciate it at times for being trek. I think there were a small handful of good episodes, good being watchable by voyager standards.Jonnyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17803141159200942858noreply@blogger.com